Avent Ferry Road Corridor Study

At the Avent Ferry Road Corridor Visioning Workshop a group of residents discussed ideas to improve the area. Corridor planning is a long process that begins with a vision that residents like you help to craft. Followed by data gathering, inventory + analysis that result in design solutions with a final recommendation that goes to council for review. There will be many steps along the way for you to participate in the process. If you were unable to attend the visioning session, you still have a chance to participate. Begin today by responding to the questions below.

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City of Raleigh Poll:
What is the cool stuff you want to keep along Avent Ferry Road?
Poll Closed
Corinne WilsonSidewalks, large trees, movie theater, natural areas near lake johnson
Reply Flag 2 Agreeone year ago
davidThe trees lining the streets!
Reply Flag 1 Agreeone year ago
Glen MeddersPedestrian friendly sidewalks. Movie theater. Lake Johnson.
Reply Flag 1 Agreeone year ago
Tim WilsonPedestrian friendly, Lake Johnson
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BrighamLike Mission Valley and Avent Ferry Shopping Center
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BrighamMission Valley and Avent Ferry Shopping Centers
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Russell MickTREES! Coming from Fayetteville AR, where the word development seems to mean removing every large tree to be replaced by a parking lot or a prohibitively expensive college student oriented monstrosity of a multi-use building, I'm absolutely astounded by the density and variety of trees still standing in Raleigh. Please don't make cut them all down for the sake of progress.

The high density of (relatively) affordable housing for students. While the management of the various apartment complexes and multifamily housing structures aren't under the direct purview of the City of Raleigh, removing these assets to students and staff at NCSU, either by renovation or replacement (see above), would absolutely change the feel of Avent Ferry, but not for the better. In fact, forcing the student population farther from campus by increasing price tags on rental agreements would only exacerbate the current traffic volume problems that seem to be the causative issue for this study.

CupaJoe. The rest of businesses in the Mission Valley Shopping Center ought to be reconsidered.

Diversity of residents! Though it would be wonderful if there were more inviting establishments along and around the northern section that promoted interaction among this incredibly diverse population.

Public Transportation. Though a quagmire in itself, the presence of so much public transportation, through the Wolfline and GoRaleigh, is absolutely essential.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Jamie HLake Johnson, bike lanes, Baja Burrito
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Gregory Austin WilsonBus Stops, Mission Valley as a whole, large trees, greenway access, connection to both NCSU campuses as well as tryon.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
jason0x21Shopping center, ABC store, Movie theater, restaurants. I'm less concerned with the stuff farther down past Centennial campus, but there's also a lot of space around Lake Johnson that could be better.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
City of Raleigh Poll:
What are some quick fixes that could be done right away to improve the area?
Poll Closed
Corinne WilsonAnother issue is bicyclist safety. Cyclists are often either forced onto sidewalks or riding alongside fast-moving traffic on this really busy road, which interferes with pedestrian safety. It would be great to put in a bike lane, or at the very least 'share the road' markings in the right lanes.
Reply Flag 4 Agreeone year ago
Corinne WilsonSomething that is extremely important is pedestrian safety. Many of the bus stops along Avent Ferry do not have crosswalks near them, and unfortunately that means students and other bus commuters end up unsafely crossing the road & standing in the middle lane. A solution to this would be (1) more crosswalks, especially at bus stops, (2) a tree-lined median so people can cross halfway and wait safely.
Reply Flag 2 Agreeone year ago
Russell MickReduce the speed limit from the posted 40 mph, from Athens Dr. to Western Blvd, to 35 mph. Even 30 mph. Though this may not be "possible" due to the current road diet. And make enforcement of whatever the speed limit is a greater priority.
Reply Flag 1 Agreeone year ago
Kris Morley-NikfarForming a community improvement district to market the corridor for investment and redevelopment. Specialty branding for the corridor to establish a sense of place. This could include signage, branding of bus routes in the corridor, corridor oriented flags, murals, house number signs and more.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Kris Morley-NikfarA special branding package for the corridor to differentiate it from other areas. This could include specialized signage, bus route branding, an office to market the corridor for redevelopment/investment, maybe a community improvement district for the corridor and or something that can make residents feel like they live in a special place, maybe specialty house number signs or flags.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Tim WilsonWider sidewalks, better defined bike lane.
Turnout for Bus stops to keep traffic flowing
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
John SuddathThe crossroads Lake Dam Rd. and Trailwood Dr. are closed, which puts a big demand on the intersection of Gorman and Avent Ferry Rd. Lake Dam Rd. has been closed for more than 2 years with no funding to replace the bridge.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
John SuddathThe crossroads Lake Dam Road and Trailwood Dr. are both closed, which puts a burden on the intersection of Gorman and Avent Ferry. Lake Dam Rd. has been closed for more than 2 years with no funding for replacing the bridge.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BrighamRestripe with 3 lanes and a bike lane.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
John SuddathTwo feeder roads on either side of Gorman St. are closed: Lake Dam Road Trailwood Dr.. That creates congestion at that intersection. Lake Dam Road has been closed for more two years with no indication of when it may reopen. Cyclists could use the greenway if there was a connection to the Centennital Campus. The proposed "people mover" could reduce the volume of bus activity.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Gregory Austin WilsonAs a frequent cyclist, pedestrian, bus commuter and driver on Avent Ferry I have concerns that people go too fast on the road. I think really quick fixes would be bike lanes and pedestrian crossings near bus stops. I often see students and other bus commuters crossing the street unsafely to try and catch a bus in time. It is hard to blame them because in many cases the nearest crosswalk isn't quite convenient. There are also some rough patches in between Western and Gorman on the far right of the lanes that I have to put myself in danger to avoid on my bike.

Long-term, to slow Avent Ferry down, I would like to see medians and/or bump outs with stormwater solutions and native plants.

Thanks so much for the opportunity to provide input!
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Glen MeddersThe one thing that I think could make the most huge impact is to convert the Avent Ferry/Western Blvd intersection into a large round-about with a center island mini-park. Something along the lines of Dupont Circle in Washington DC (although it would have to be smaller). This would be a great connection between the 2 major NCSU campuses. NCSU alums could put in a big Wolfpack fountain in the middle. There are so many pedestrians and bikes at that intersection and it is always awkward crossing. You could easily accomodate the traffic at the same time creating a great landmark for Raleigh and for NCSU and creating a more friendly pedestrian and biking environment.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
jason0x21Anything that improves pedestrian/cyclist safety and improves connection between Centennial and Main. Possibly an All-way red for automobile traffic. There was talk of a tunnel under Western and/or rail system between the campuses, and while those aren't _quick_ fixes, they're the kids of pedestrian/cyclist prioritizing I'd like to see.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
City of Raleigh Poll:
What are the big issues that need to be fixed along the corridor?
Poll Closed
Corinne WilsonMostly pedestrian and bike safety: Pedestrian safety while crossing at bus stop locations, slowing down the car traffic, adding bike lines, reducing the width of the road at some locations (less impervious area). I think traffic circles could be a good idea at some locations (possibly at the intersections with varsity and centennial)
Reply Flag 2 Agreeone year ago
Glen MeddersPedestrian and bike friendliness.
Reply Flag 2 Agreeone year ago
Caroline OwingsIt needs to be pedestrian and bike friendly. This road is next to a college campus and connects main campus to Centennial. Students need to feel comfortable and safe walking between the two. We do not need to be advocating more cars on the road; but rather, focused on improving public transportation and walkability. It is also extremely important to make the area aesthetically pleasing. Preserve the trees, make some green spaces, put in a green median. This area has the potential to become much more inviting to all and become a truly desired place to go. Students could walk there, people would enjoy being in this area, and it would help promote the businesses nearby.
Reply Flag 1 Agreeone year ago
Russell MickThe big issue is redefining transportation to include foot and bicycle travel along side vehicular motion. A paradigm shift is in order.

Bringing landlords of rental properties and the owners of the Mission Valley and Avent Ferry Shopping Centers to account and contribute has to happen if this project is going to be anything more than a fresh coat of paint.

Also crosswalks. In-between blocks. With traffic signals. Hey! Maybe even coordinate these signals with bus loading areas?
Reply Flag 1 Agreeone year ago
Kris Morley-NikfarThe corridor is extremely auto-oriented. Development along this corridor is primarily single use and low density. The commercial centers are typically older and unattractive, they have large surface parking lots that discourage walking or biking and lack a feeling of sense of place. There is only one, lower end, grocery store (the Food Lion). Creating a walkable and bikeable environmental requires more than just providing facilities. It also requires a development pattern that makes it comfortable to walk and/or bike. This area should be heavily redeveloped to be more compact and mixed-use. Existing green areas should be preserved.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Pierre TongI drive along Avent Ferry Road daily after work and always see students crossing the street using the middle two-way-left-turn-lane as a break due to lack of crosswalks near bus stops or just in general along the corridor. Someone is going to get hit and killed out there sometime (if they haven't already). New crosswalks spaced at reasonable distances especially near bus stops and student housing and refuge islands in the median are crucial IMO.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BrighamBike/Ped safety. High vehicular speeds. More density needed. More mix of uses (corner stores etc.).
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Steve GrothmannBike lanes, pedestrian safety, preserve as much shade as possible.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
jason0x211) All things along the corridor are automobile focused.
2) A lack of connection between Centennial and Main Campuses.
3) More parking at Lake Johnson
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
City of Raleigh Poll:
Do you want to see new or re-development along the corridor?
Yes
71%
Maybe, if it is the right fit.
18%
No
12%
Poll Closed | 17 Responses
Corinne WilsonA lot of the apartments and shopping centers need updating, but we don't need to be developing prior undeveloped lands. There are a lot of nice wooded areas along this stretch, and I think we need keep some of these.
Reply Flag 1 Agreeone year ago
Kris Morley-NikfarNew development/redevelopment should be compact, mixed-use and promote a walkable environment.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Caroline OwingsThis area needs for green spaces and preserve the trees that are there. As is, there is more than enough parking and paved area in Mission Valley. Revamp the shopping center; not by developing more, but by incorporating pleasing aesthetics. A great option is to convert Avent Ferry into a complete street with grass medians and trees, reduce the speed limit, add cross-walks and bike-lanes, maybe even convert one lane into a bus lane only.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BrighamBuild 'em tall!
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Brandon Dale MooreYes Please.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
davidThis would be a good area to require Green Frontage. Allowing developers to remove large hardwoods and &/or inadequately protect mature trees is not acceptable.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
davidEncouraging updating/redeveloping apartments and shopping centers would go a long way toward improving this corridor. This area needs to leverage easy access to both NCSU campuses, Dix, 40 and downtown plus two recreational lakes.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago
Gregory Austin WilsonNatural Areas should remain especially along the greenway, but some of the apartments and shopping centers could definitely use updating. Mixed use facilities are neat. We live in the Wynnewood Park Neighborhood and would love to have better dinning and beverage options to walk to. Keep greenspaces as much as possible though.
Reply Flag 0 Agreeone year ago

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How do you use Avent Ferry Road?
  • 104 76% To commute to school or work
  • 88 64% To get to destinations for food, entertainment or fun
  • 74 54% To get to destinations like Lake Johnson
  • 39 28% For recreation
How do you typically travel on Avent Ferry Road?
  • 173 86% Drive
  • 11 6% Walk
  • 10 5% Bike
  • 6 3% Take the bus
What would you like to see along Avent Ferry Road?
Reid WhitleyA friendly and beautiful avenue for pedestrians and bikers as well as the cars. Since it is destined to be a high traffic road, the bike and pedestrian facilities need to be safely separated from the car traffic.
And, when the bridge and causeway across the Lake are redone, I hope they can retain some of the graceful beauty they have now. The elevation change and the sweeping curves at the lake are the most beautiful part of Avent Ferry Road. It would be unfortunate if that were lost in order to create a thoroughfare.
Reply 2 Agreeone year ago
jhartmanAvent Ferry needs to be made much safer for pedestrians crossing the street and for bike riders. Currently there are no bike-only lanes which are physically protected from cars. Maybe raised pedestrian islands are needed to help make it safer for people to walk across the street to get to the buses.
Reply 2 Agreeone year ago
Charlie OliverVery common for students to run across all 5 lanes, crossings of some sort need to be available and clear, perhaps one each where there is a bus stop on the opposite side of the road? Additional to this is swift punishment for failure to utilize them.

The left-hand turn off AF to Gorman is inadequate. Its common to have this backed up to the previous left hand turn with no hope of making it within 2 light cycles.
Reply 2 Agreeone year ago
grahamBetter pedestrian signage and access to crossings. I have seen too many times a student run across all 5 lanes because the distance from one crosswalk to the next is prohibitive.
Reply 2 Agreeone year ago
Ashley Renee MillerRe-development of older shopping structures, sidewalks that are kept up in terms of maintenance, green space that makes sense and doesn't impact a drivers vision.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Gracey VaughnNice restaurants - not necessarily super fancy, but healthy (ie, BGood, Panera, Moes). Bike lanes. A Wegamns, Publix, Trader Joes, Harris Teeter or something other than Food Lion as a grocery store. A casual bar/pub with an outdoor patio backing up to the greenway. A public children's playground.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Timothy TresohlavyRedevelopment with higher density along roadway (not surface parking), and screened parking behind. This roadway should feel more like Oberlin Rd, St Marys St, or Six Forks Rd development. Development density should support Bus Rapid Transit facilities in the future.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Barbara FraserMake it easier for pedestrians to cross. Make the right lane (headed south) at the intersection of Avent Ferry and Gorman Street right turn only. Do away with the right lane after the intersection where people race to get into the left lane.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Laura Howard1. Bike lanes where needed.
2. Grassy median in place of suicide lane.
3. Pedestrian crosswalks where traffic must STOP and YIELD to walkers.
See other comment box for justifications
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Patrick Beggsbike lanes or multi lanes for bikes and walking.
a better traffic light at Varsity - it is DANGEROUS to make a left and turn north on avent
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Sharon Graham FeltonMulti-use buildings with options for shopping and dinning. Save ways for students to cross the street and catch the bus.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
kristydactylA multi-modal street for people of all ages and abilities.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
kristydactylMulti-modal Street for all ages and abilities. Safe crossings. Intersections with automatic pedestrian phases
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Chris Popethis is also interesting: https://facilities.ofa.ncsu.edu/files/2016/02/Centennial_NoText.pdf
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Chris Popethe sidewalk under construction at I-40 extends from Lake Johnson clubhouse to 350' south of Mistiflower Dr. I haven't found any plans for section from the lake to Athens.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Chris Popehttp://www.raleighnc.gov/services/content/PWksDesignConst/Articles/StreetProjects.html
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Chris Popesorry for the dual post
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Chris PopeThe Pullen/Oval/Bilyeu street connection plans and info can be found at http://www.raleighnc.gov/services/content/PWksDesignConst/Articles/StreetProjects.html. Scheduled to be complete in 2017.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
davidUpgraded housing options. Better routes and higher frequency bus service between main campus, Centennial campus, and apartment communities along the corridor. Improved and safer bike lanes and pedestrian crosswalks to the shopping centers. Nicer restaurants and bars that could also add night life would help. Why doesn't Avent Ferry Shopping Center ever have any free events or concerts?
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Antony MwangiAn improved bus stop with a shelter and associated amenities for the Avent Ferry road at Centennial Parkway bus stop (NB)
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Antony MwangiAn Improved bus stop with a shelter, a pedestrian crossing and other associated ameneities
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Diane Wide sidewalks that properly and safely accommodate motorized wheelchairs all the way to Lake Johnson!
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Erin BlankertHow about, before you start doing anything to anything, fix the darn bridges, all of them and soon. I'm glad we're holding off on Avent Ferry right now, but to think that Avent Ferry and Gorman are the only thoroughfares is ridiculous. I can't even get out of my apartment complex during specific times everyday because I can't make a left onto Tryon from Lake Dam and I can't make a left or a right onto Gorman almost at Thistledown. Forget everything else and please finish all of the bridges.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Diane Great point!
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
NicoleIt would be nice to extend the sidewalk from Tryon to Lake Johnson.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
NicoleExtend the sidewalk from Tryon to the lake. Add a ramp to I-40.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
zack feltoni would like to see the secondary lane at the corner of avent and gorman extended to at least the end of the shopping center, and a dedicated right turn lane from gorman onto avent from the western blvd side, as it is difficult to turn and can end up in lengthy wait times.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Joseph HuegySome more appealing street landscaping and a better walking environment.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Sam NechvatalPedestrian and bike friendly
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Kristi McClainRestaurants with patio seating, healthier take-out options, local stores for shopping, local restaurants, a nicer (but affordable) grocery store other than the old Food Lion, a local brewery would be fantastic!
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Mary SellBetter cycling, pedestrian and transit infrastructure.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
AndreaImproved paving/repaving repairs,
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Laura RitchieMore green spaces, plantings, flowers, well maintained roads/sidewalks
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Chris Popeless poison ivy. Better maintenance of publicly owned portions.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Allison Dahlegreenway path
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Deanna MetivierA bus lane and bike lanes
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Rachel PohlmanBuffer between the sidewalks and the road. Safer way to bicycle.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Rachel PohlmanSafe crosswalks and bus shelters
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Patrick BeggsPedestrian crosswalks for the hundreds or thousands of students trying to get across to the buses.
No right on red from gorman (both directions) and trailwood onto Avent, at least during commuter hours.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Brandon Dale MooreRe-development of older shopping and residential centers. Higher density allowed at Avent Ferry Shopping Center and Mission Valley. Possibly mixed use on the Northwest, Southwest and Northeast corners of the Gorman/Avent Ferry Intersection
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Dan TroidlMake the traffic lights timed so you can keep driving
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
What would you like to see changed on Avent Ferry Road?
Shaylee ReichardtA pedestrian cross walk bettwen Western and Centennial. Lots of students cross in the middle of those two streets because otherwise you have to cross three times by centennial to get the other side of Avent
Reply 12 Agreeone year ago
Jay DawkinsI see a lot of bikes on the sidewalk in this area - maybe there's a way to widen that into a greenway-style path. That may align with narrowing the road lanes a bit since the current width seems to facilitate speed. Given the large walking/biking student population in this area, it makes sense to reduce speed, at least from Western to Lake Johnson.
Reply 12 Agreeone year ago
Ben WilliamsIt was 45 a few years ago then they dropped it to 40. 35 is good. I see people flying down avent ferry on a daily basis. More crosswalks are needed bc so many people stand in the turn lane trying to cross to get to the bus stops. Always afraid I will see someone get hit trying to cross to make the bus on time
Reply 4 Agreeone year ago
Diane Also agree!
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Daniel PriceI'd say reduce the speed all the way back to Tryon. So many walking around at Lake Johnson.
Reply 4 Agreeone year ago
Kate Rios100% agree with you Jay.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Joseph Alexander CarrAgreed, there needs to be more between Western and Gorman to help people get across the streets to the bus stops. Also, 35 would be just fine for that road.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BagbyA turn signal at the intersection of Varsity and Avent Ferry. When turning left facing centennial you are esstientially blind to oncoming traffic due to the downward slope and the cars turning left from the opposite way obstructing what little view one may have. Seen many near accidents due to this.
Reply 4 Agreeone year ago
Alicia GreenCan we talk about Lake Dam Rd for a second?
Reply 3 Agreeone year ago
Roberta Cobb JohnsonThe left turn arrow to turn off Avent Ferry to Athens Dr never turns green. It's only a yellow blinking arrow. When they first installed the new lights I thought it was a glitch, but it still remains the same. During heavy traffic times, it would be beneficial to turn green, i.e. before/after school and work traffic in the evening.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Ben WilliamsIf the lights could be timed better that would help. I use it daily to go downtown for work. Bus pull off areas and consolidate the stops so they don't have to stop at every block. Drives me crazy
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Jasmin Robertson WilsonMore buses. I would like to be able to get to Tryon Rd from that area.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Ben WilliamsMore buses? There are tons of buses running constantly on avent ferry. There should be bus lanes where they can let traffic flow around them instead of blocking a lane
Reply 3 Agreeone year ago
jhartmanHow about putting pedestrian islands in the median, with protected bike-only lanes on either side of the median. Then do a road-diet, so there would be one lane each shared by the buses and the cars. The buses would help slow the cars during morning and evening transits. Put some lay-bys for the buses to pull over to load and unload passengers at the sidewalks. Also put in some mid-block pedestrian crossings, with some kind of traffic light signaling to slow/stop the vehicles.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Laura Howard1. It needs bicycle lanes where there is high traffic pressure. The current bicycle lanes on Avent Ferry Road are absurd. They exist where they are not needed, and end where they would add a huge measure of safety.
2. It needs to have a grassy median where it is a 4 lane road, similar to the Glenwood Avenue median near 5 points. Avent Ferry Road is lined with student apartments. Many of these students take the bus to and from school, crossing all 5 lanes of traffic unprotected. A median in place of the current suicide lane would add a huge amount of safety for this population.
3. Pedestrian Crosswalks with lights. See above for justification.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Sharon Graham FeltonNew construction that creates a more urban feel.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
kristydactylAutomatic pedestrian phases and bus shelters are needed on Accent Ferry. In some locations you need to walk down into a ditch to actuate the signal.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Antony Mwangichange the street to a Complete street with marked pedestrian crossings in line with the bus stop locations
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Shannon WarcholRedesign of Varsity & Avent Ferry intersection. I think the EB to NB left turn should be protected only. When a WB to SB left turn lane is occupied, it is nearly impossible to see (and yield) to any traffic headed WBT. Additionally, drivers making the WBR often fail to yield due to poor alignment/confusion about the dedicated right turn lane for the NB approach. Many drivers believe the traffic in that right turn lane is the traffic they need to be yielding to instead of the outside through lane.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Diane Uneven surfaces
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Erin BlankertTake the money you want to spend on anything else and fix the bridges first please.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
NicoleAdd a sidewalk from Lake Johnson to Tryon Rd. Also a ramp to 40 would be nice.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Gabrielle RiversCrosswalks and sidewalks are needed all over avent ferry
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Joseph HuegyPedestrian improvements including to the asphalt sidewalk section.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Jim RichardsonSolve the traffic congestion problem with 4 traffic lanes all the way to Athens Drive!!!
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Jennifer Katherine Peeler TrumanThere are a lot of pedestrian and bicycle traffic along Avent Ferry because of NCSU. Improving the street to be more of a complete street with dedicated areas for biking and walking would be a major improvement. Bicyclists on the sidewalk is dangerous for pedestrians, but doing on the street without bike lanes is dangerous for the bikes. A complete street with trees could also keep some of the natural wooded feel as the area gets more developed.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Kristi McClainMake it more of a nice, destination road and not just an ugly commuter road. The shopping centers need to be cleaned up and updated. Promotion of the greenway to Lake Johnson. Restaurants/a brewery along the greenery. This area has so much potential! More of a walkable, urban feel. Signage for the area.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
MMPedestrian tunnels where Avent crosses Western, Gorman, and Trailwood. Especially at Western - put in tunnels and completely block any street crossing. Seems like we lose a college kid every year to that intersection. Improve shopping center at Gorman. It has gone down hill since the police station left and I don't feel safe there anymore.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Ashley Renee MillerSidewalks that actually run the entire length instead of part here and part there. Extension of greenway if possible. No changes to the actual street though.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Gracey VaughnSome cafes, restaurants, pubs, and entertainment along the greenway to really showcase the nature.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
AndreaI know there is a large amount of traffic to consider, but if the current speed limit plus the multi-lane design encourages unsafe conditions for the pedestrians and bike riders, especially with the ability to race down the road just to cut into the other lane at the last minute. The middle lane should be converted (similar to Hillsborough's redesign) that encourages safe foot traffic and designated crossings but is not prohibitive. Traffic calming would be safest for the walkers and bike riders, and may encourage more walking and biking. The speed limit is set to 40 mph in the more heavily populated section of Avent Ferry (which appears to be the most traveled section) and that speed could be reduced to only 35 mph and also encourage safer movement and less "racing".
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Mary SellMuch better cycling connectivity and sidewalk/pedestrian amenities. The bike lanes are very sporadic right now. Really need a bike lane (at minimum) and a cycle track (better) to connect campus (Western Blvd) to the Lake Johnson corridor.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Timothy TresohlavyAccess management of driveways. Improved sidewalk connectivity (small gaps exist) and high visibility crosswalk markings. Direct connection to NC State greenway trail, which dead ends near Varsity Dr. Improved bus shelter amenities. Underpass of Western Blvd.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Chris Popecurb side trash pickup (eyesore and visibility issue every Thursday). Concrete sidewalk. Fewer potholes.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Allison Dahlei think extending the greenway up to gorman street.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Barbara FraserNo more bicycle lanes because people don't use them. They still use the sidewalks. Two lanes all the way to Athens Drive.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Rachel PohlmanThe bike lane that starts just before you get to Merrie Rd is awkward. It begins just as cars are preparing to turn.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Sally M. CurtisIt needs to be two lanes all the way to Athens Drive.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Patrick BeggsThe lanes at western blvd dont' make sense. I think you could do 2 right turn lanes starting much earlier and only 1 left turn lane and then 1 straight lane. it is a madhouse every morning with people cutting in on other people. A horrible way to start the day

bike lanes or multi lanes for bikes and walking. a better traffic light at Varsity - it is DANGEROUS to make a left and turn north on avent
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Brandon Dale MoorePedestrian refuges at major intersections. Streetscape plantings, signage with a theme for the area. A stronger transition to parkway south of Gorman with possibly planted medians as you approach Lake Johnson.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Dan TroidlLike the way it is nice meander drive.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Charlie OliverMore urban feel would be nice, would also lend itself to be more obviously not a high speed area.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
grahamThe road lends itself to speeding. It is downhill and very wide with a center turn lane and only a few stoplights, so it deceives drivers into seeing it as a highway and not a densely populated area. Storefronts with much less frontage might narrow the feeling of the corridor and bring things down to a "pedestrian level", but at the very least, the street needs to be redesigned to feel more urban rather than highway and thoroughfare. Traffic is heavy here, I realize this, but just because traffic is heavy doesn't mean it has to be encouraged to speed to keep things moving.
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
What is the cool stuff you want to keep along Avent Ferry Road?
Corinne WilsonSidewalks, large trees, movie theater, natural areas near lake johnson
Reply 2 Agreeone year ago
davidThe trees lining the streets!
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Glen MeddersPedestrian friendly sidewalks. Movie theater. Lake Johnson.
Reply 1 Agreeone year ago
Tim WilsonPedestrian friendly, Lake Johnson
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BrighamLike Mission Valley and Avent Ferry Shopping Center
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Evan BrighamMission Valley and Avent Ferry Shopping Centers
Reply 0 Agreeone year ago
Russell MickTREES! Coming from Fayetteville AR, where the word development seems to mean removing every large tree to be replaced by a parking lot or a prohibitively expensive college student oriented monstrosity of a multi-use building, I'm absolutely astounded by the density and variety of trees still standing in Raleigh. Please don't make cut them all down for the sake of progress.

The high density of (relatively) affordable housing for students. While the management of the various apartment complexes and multifamily housing structures aren't under the direct purview of the City of Raleigh, removing these assets to students and staff at NCSU, either by renovation or replacement (see above), would absolutely change the feel of Avent Ferry, but not for the better. In fact, forcing the student population farther from campus by increasing price tags on rental agreements would only exacerbate the current traffic volume problems that seem to be the causative issue for this study.

CupaJoe. The rest of businesses in the Mission Valley Shopping Center ought to be reconsidered.

Diversity of residents! Though it would be wonderful if there were more inviting establishments along and around the northern section that promoted interaction among this incredibly diverse population.

Public Transportation. Though a quagmire in itself, the presence of so much public transportation, through the Wolfline and GoRaleigh, is absolutely essential.
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Jamie HLake Johnson, bike lanes, Baja Burrito
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Gregory Austin WilsonBus Stops, Mission Valley as a whole, large trees, greenway access, connection to both NCSU campuses as well as tryon.
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jason0x21Shopping center, ABC store, Movie theater, restaurants. I'm less concerned with the stuff farther down past Centennial campus, but there's also a lot of space around Lake Johnson that could be better.
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What are the big issues that need to be fixed along the corridor?
Corinne WilsonMostly pedestrian and bike safety: Pedestrian safety while crossing at bus stop locations, slowing down the car traffic, adding bike lines, reducing the width of the road at some locations (less impervious area). I think traffic circles could be a good idea at some locations (possibly at the intersections with varsity and centennial)
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Glen MeddersPedestrian and bike friendliness.
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Caroline OwingsIt needs to be pedestrian and bike friendly. This road is next to a college campus and connects main campus to Centennial. Students need to feel comfortable and safe walking between the two. We do not need to be advocating more cars on the road; but rather, focused on improving public transportation and walkability. It is also extremely important to make the area aesthetically pleasing. Preserve the trees, make some green spaces, put in a green median. This area has the potential to become much more inviting to all and become a truly desired place to go. Students could walk there, people would enjoy being in this area, and it would help promote the businesses nearby.
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Russell MickThe big issue is redefining transportation to include foot and bicycle travel along side vehicular motion. A paradigm shift is in order.

Bringing landlords of rental properties and the owners of the Mission Valley and Avent Ferry Shopping Centers to account and contribute has to happen if this project is going to be anything more than a fresh coat of paint.

Also crosswalks. In-between blocks. With traffic signals. Hey! Maybe even coordinate these signals with bus loading areas?
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Kris Morley-NikfarThe corridor is extremely auto-oriented. Development along this corridor is primarily single use and low density. The commercial centers are typically older and unattractive, they have large surface parking lots that discourage walking or biking and lack a feeling of sense of place. There is only one, lower end, grocery store (the Food Lion). Creating a walkable and bikeable environmental requires more than just providing facilities. It also requires a development pattern that makes it comfortable to walk and/or bike. This area should be heavily redeveloped to be more compact and mixed-use. Existing green areas should be preserved.
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Pierre TongI drive along Avent Ferry Road daily after work and always see students crossing the street using the middle two-way-left-turn-lane as a break due to lack of crosswalks near bus stops or just in general along the corridor. Someone is going to get hit and killed out there sometime (if they haven't already). New crosswalks spaced at reasonable distances especially near bus stops and student housing and refuge islands in the median are crucial IMO.
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Evan BrighamBike/Ped safety. High vehicular speeds. More density needed. More mix of uses (corner stores etc.).
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Steve GrothmannBike lanes, pedestrian safety, preserve as much shade as possible.
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jason0x211) All things along the corridor are automobile focused.
2) A lack of connection between Centennial and Main Campuses.
3) More parking at Lake Johnson
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Do you want to see new or re-development along the corridor?
  • 12 71% Yes
  • 3 18% Maybe, if it is the right fit.
  • 2 12% No
Corinne WilsonA lot of the apartments and shopping centers need updating, but we don't need to be developing prior undeveloped lands. There are a lot of nice wooded areas along this stretch, and I think we need keep some of these.
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Kris Morley-NikfarNew development/redevelopment should be compact, mixed-use and promote a walkable environment.
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Caroline OwingsThis area needs for green spaces and preserve the trees that are there. As is, there is more than enough parking and paved area in Mission Valley. Revamp the shopping center; not by developing more, but by incorporating pleasing aesthetics. A great option is to convert Avent Ferry into a complete street with grass medians and trees, reduce the speed limit, add cross-walks and bike-lanes, maybe even convert one lane into a bus lane only.
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Evan BrighamBuild 'em tall!
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Brandon Dale MooreYes Please.
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davidThis would be a good area to require Green Frontage. Allowing developers to remove large hardwoods and &/or inadequately protect mature trees is not acceptable.
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davidEncouraging updating/redeveloping apartments and shopping centers would go a long way toward improving this corridor. This area needs to leverage easy access to both NCSU campuses, Dix, 40 and downtown plus two recreational lakes.
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Gregory Austin WilsonNatural Areas should remain especially along the greenway, but some of the apartments and shopping centers could definitely use updating. Mixed use facilities are neat. We live in the Wynnewood Park Neighborhood and would love to have better dinning and beverage options to walk to. Keep greenspaces as much as possible though.
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What are some quick fixes that could be done right away to improve the area?
Corinne WilsonAnother issue is bicyclist safety. Cyclists are often either forced onto sidewalks or riding alongside fast-moving traffic on this really busy road, which interferes with pedestrian safety. It would be great to put in a bike lane, or at the very least 'share the road' markings in the right lanes.
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Corinne WilsonSomething that is extremely important is pedestrian safety. Many of the bus stops along Avent Ferry do not have crosswalks near them, and unfortunately that means students and other bus commuters end up unsafely crossing the road & standing in the middle lane. A solution to this would be (1) more crosswalks, especially at bus stops, (2) a tree-lined median so people can cross halfway and wait safely.
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Russell MickReduce the speed limit from the posted 40 mph, from Athens Dr. to Western Blvd, to 35 mph. Even 30 mph. Though this may not be "possible" due to the current road diet. And make enforcement of whatever the speed limit is a greater priority.
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Kris Morley-NikfarForming a community improvement district to market the corridor for investment and redevelopment. Specialty branding for the corridor to establish a sense of place. This could include signage, branding of bus routes in the corridor, corridor oriented flags, murals, house number signs and more.
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Kris Morley-NikfarA special branding package for the corridor to differentiate it from other areas. This could include specialized signage, bus route branding, an office to market the corridor for redevelopment/investment, maybe a community improvement district for the corridor and or something that can make residents feel like they live in a special place, maybe specialty house number signs or flags.
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Tim WilsonWider sidewalks, better defined bike lane.
Turnout for Bus stops to keep traffic flowing
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John SuddathThe crossroads Lake Dam Rd. and Trailwood Dr. are closed, which puts a big demand on the intersection of Gorman and Avent Ferry Rd. Lake Dam Rd. has been closed for more than 2 years with no funding to replace the bridge.
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John SuddathThe crossroads Lake Dam Road and Trailwood Dr. are both closed, which puts a burden on the intersection of Gorman and Avent Ferry. Lake Dam Rd. has been closed for more than 2 years with no funding for replacing the bridge.
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Evan BrighamRestripe with 3 lanes and a bike lane.
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John SuddathTwo feeder roads on either side of Gorman St. are closed: Lake Dam Road Trailwood Dr.. That creates congestion at that intersection. Lake Dam Road has been closed for more two years with no indication of when it may reopen. Cyclists could use the greenway if there was a connection to the Centennital Campus. The proposed "people mover" could reduce the volume of bus activity.
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Gregory Austin WilsonAs a frequent cyclist, pedestrian, bus commuter and driver on Avent Ferry I have concerns that people go too fast on the road. I think really quick fixes would be bike lanes and pedestrian crossings near bus stops. I often see students and other bus commuters crossing the street unsafely to try and catch a bus in time. It is hard to blame them because in many cases the nearest crosswalk isn't quite convenient. There are also some rough patches in between Western and Gorman on the far right of the lanes that I have to put myself in danger to avoid on my bike.

Long-term, to slow Avent Ferry down, I would like to see medians and/or bump outs with stormwater solutions and native plants.

Thanks so much for the opportunity to provide input!
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Glen MeddersThe one thing that I think could make the most huge impact is to convert the Avent Ferry/Western Blvd intersection into a large round-about with a center island mini-park. Something along the lines of Dupont Circle in Washington DC (although it would have to be smaller). This would be a great connection between the 2 major NCSU campuses. NCSU alums could put in a big Wolfpack fountain in the middle. There are so many pedestrians and bikes at that intersection and it is always awkward crossing. You could easily accomodate the traffic at the same time creating a great landmark for Raleigh and for NCSU and creating a more friendly pedestrian and biking environment.
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jason0x21Anything that improves pedestrian/cyclist safety and improves connection between Centennial and Main. Possibly an All-way red for automobile traffic. There was talk of a tunnel under Western and/or rail system between the campuses, and while those aren't _quick_ fixes, they're the kids of pedestrian/cyclist prioritizing I'd like to see.
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